But Julian must presumably have previously struck a deal with InfoSoft to use the FC, widgets etc suite in the first place. (Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but my ageing recollection is that WDL uses the FC suite as its main presentation engine.) So the question really boils down to why this deal cannot be continued on presumably similar terms, but obviously now for the JS-based version of the suite.
I think the issue here is that we want anyone to be able to view our web pages without having to do anything with their devices, its OK for those with the skills but the vast majority dont have them. If you have the skill and it works then fine. However we need to be able to migrate to things which work on ALL platforms without user intervention on their devices since Flash will at some time in the future die completely, many people on desktops have it turned off these days because it is not very secure.
Stuart
I can only test android, with Android I see my gauges but nothing for wdl, no flash support
One note, it loads 1.5 MB of files 8O Thats waaay too much, ie. icons whats 100 KB in size each are just too much expecially for mobile devices with limited bandwidth. Its nicely responsive tought but a few gauges are too wide for 320 px width what many smarthphones have… Btw. why do you not use css-sprites (combine all icons to one image) to get down the http-requests?
The icons will of course be smaller in the final version I didn’t bother with that at this stage, I wanted to make sure it works in the first place and also the size is something I will address later - as I said in my first post
Okay 
Re. the “modulariness” like WDL. There are some javascript-plugins (i don’t remember if it is jQuery or Bootstrap-specific or what) where one as visitor can move around and even hide/add elements on the page. Add to that ability so save the configuration for next visit. Something like that could be one idea.
Like: website-owner just enables wanted values => a default layout shows on the page with all enabled => visitor can config it how he/she wants. The key here is that the page remembers the visitors settings/layout including units etc.
I will look into that, it would definitely require cookies.
See reply #4 and #5 in this thread, I would read Julian’s answer as a “no” although it doesn’t say that directly.
hello Jachym…
will this work for people that are using Meteobridge? and if Yes where can I download it to try it out?
Thanks…Chris
P.S. I did manage to get your Fire Danger script running and you can view it here…
http://www.gateway2capecod.com/meteotemplate//fireDanger.php
Hi Chris,
this is actually a version specifically made to “mimick” WDL. It uses clientraw files, generated by Weather Display.
I will make an alternative for my template as well, which will use the database instead of the clientraw files and will therefore be compatible with WD, Cumulus, Meteobridge, WView and Meteoplug (i.e. my template).
Right now I am still at a stage where I am developing the script as such, making sure the updates work etc. Once that is done I will implement some more customizations in addition to units and update interval, then I will try to see if I could make it possible to change and save personal layouts. Then last stage will be cleaning up the code, compressing icons, making several design themes etc.
And if all that works I can then make an alternative version for various platforms, I will make one for my template.
one thing to note is that Flash has ability to be able to register to the domain, i.e to get rid of the splash screen it needs to be purchased
there is no easy way to do that with HTML5 (you could but the algortithm would be visible in the html code if someone were to go looking for it)
which means any alternative to WDL is basicly open source and free (and so sales of WDL go down (which they have been anyway though due to flash being less and less supported)
First: I love WDL because on a single page we can see and access the global information without bell and whistle
This is the case of all scripts written in HTML or Javascript - especially Javascript developers that want to sell their scripts have a problem… unlike for example PHP, which is server side language.
I dont have a problem with that, I offer everything free anyway and I have absolutely no plans on changing this.
For you Brian it is a problem obviously if WDL was paid, but I guess that is in no way affected by this free alternative, because WDL will stop working soon no matter whether there is an alternative or isnt and sales will obviously go down significantly.
Flash will die soon - why?
Because Google and FF have already announced this, right now you already have to specifically turn it on /allow it on each page and you see a notification at the top it will soon no longer be supported.
And the problem is that everyone uses the most recent version of browsers - it updates automatically, there are often security fixes etc etc. And trust me, people are not going to turn off auto updates and stick with some old version of their browser just to run WDL. And if WDL does not work in Chrome, FF and I guess soon also IE, then it is virtually dead.
On Android for example you already have it totally blocked. There is a Flash apk, but it is not even in the Google Play shop. You must particularly look for it on the web, download it from alternative source, manually install and it is not really secure… which is something standard user will never do anyway.
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First: I love WDL because on a single page we can see and access the global information without bell and whistle
I understand about Puffin, I’ve tried it but I dont like it. However my point is that many many people will visit a web site and if it does not work they wont come back, why should they if their choice of browser does not work, why should they go looking for one which does. This is why I want a solution which aims to work in ALL browsers and ideally a solution which is standards compliant. I know a lot of folks here will play around to find something which works but that is probably less than 1% of the users out there.
Stuart
Exactly, which is why I think using HTML, CSS and JS is the way to go - supported by all browsers. It might not offer 100% of what WDL did, though there are other things which it can do and so I think it is the ideal solution. I completely agree with what you wrote and in fact I even said that already - there are and will still be ways of running flash, but that is only a solution if you want to use WDL yourself, I can guarantee you as a developer in general, that users will NOT install new SW or APKs just to be able to run one single site… they will simply ignore this site.
The English is not my main language so I make all possible effort to stay clear in my comment