Weather Display vs Virtual Weather Station

so your not one of those 4 banned then windy miller
joke! :wink:

They expunged me too and I was only trying to have a discussion with the moderator, clearly that was a mistake :lol:

i was helping people out at times too (although some people just did not see it that way) as they were left floundering, and I didnt like to see fellow weather enthusiasts suffering , but I was banned too

Well, I guess we can now say ā€œwelcome to our clubā€!

Just had to reply. :slight_smile:

From what I can see, ImageSalsa is a far better option, particulary if you want to run multiple cameras (IS v2).

VWSql now actually works properly. :stuck_out_tongue:
How can one convert the databases between the VWS and WD ones ?

VWS Tide predictions, well I can do that fine with VWS, pretty much the same way you have in WD. :wink:

Active participant ? ā€¦ no comment !

Not going to say anything on the next item. :wink:

So far WD has got me completely perplexed, but this time Iā€™m going to give it a good shake, and give it a fair go to check and compare it to what I currently run.

Well I have to agree with you on that oneā€¦ the graphics are superior to your own ones in WD, but Iā€™m sure you will be looking at altering the WD ones to be a bit more ā€œflashyā€ā€¦ png would be a good format for the ā€œflashyā€ graphics. :slight_smile:

You got what ??? Banned from that forum for not using VWS anymore ? ā€¦ what a crock !

Well you must be, because when I went to the member list of the new forum, http://ambientwxsupport.com/smf/ I couldnā€™t find Hobbytalk there. :frowning:

I bought a Boltek from Edā€™s site, and when I complained that the shipping was so expensive, and then got slammed with extra delivery costs on my end, the result was that Ed wonā€™t sell to anyone outside of the USA anymore. Disappointing really, as he only had to allow for different shipping methods other than UPS outside of the USA, such as good old fashioned USPS Air Mail. Shipping options for NexStorm from his site outside the USA was around the $US90 mark !

oz. Yes, I have found that the WD software can be confusing to setup. While I now have things running fairly smoothly and getting most of the data I want to display, I still find myself wondering if there are better or more efficient ways of doing things. I just figure little by little I will work on it to make sure I have everything as it should.

WDā€™s direct web cam capture can handle a 2nd web cam

and it is also does custom tag overlay, image overlay,movie creation, live streaming, etc
but you can still use IS, and incorporate that into WD via the 3rd party web cam setup
note that image salsa is not really anything to do with VWS, its a stand alone product,its advertised on the WD web pages

Troll. There's a troll in the dungeon

Professor Quirrel

:smiley:

Well there you go, I didnā€™t know that it did support more than one camera, and do all the rest too !

Perhaps thatā€™s because Iā€™m still trying to come to grips with everything all at once. :slight_smile:

Point taken though, it isnā€™t part of VWS, but a third party standalone product.

the neat thing about getting time stamped web cam images into wd (even via IS) is that you can then get the web cam image at mouse cursor position on the graph to show up (hold down the left mouse), and so you end up with a web cam movieā€¦you scroll back and forth, and the movie goes backwards or forwards, at that point in the day on the graph

Well I have been using both programs for yearsā€¦ I agree that the situation depends also from the used hardware, PC and station.

Now Iā€™m using both together, VWS connected to the station and WD for other purposes, such as weather display live.

In addition, Nexstorm with some custom perl scripts, a script to make RSS via a VWS template, and for the webcam this free server http://www.webcam2000.info/ with an applet to make almost streaming video http://www.meteorologica.co.uk/downloads/CamStream.zip (from Tim West, the author of wflash), with some custom scripting again to allow > 20 clients.

WD and VWS are very different as outlined in this thread, but they have something in common, and that is something wich has bring me to the border of desperation: so much updates, and almost never a truly stable version.

WD has in the past caused many crashes on my system, leading twice to lost of all data and subsequent reformatting. Maybe I have downloaded an unlucky version. I switched then to VWS. It ran better, but was eating memory, and had some crashes. In the VWS forum someone had the same problems, and they have posted a repository of old versions that ran better, with some recommendations. This was the point to stay with VWS: after some trials, I found an (older) version that runs absolutely stable on my system, even for months! I did try this with WD but I had (on my system) no such luck.

On both systems Iā€™m missing the on other software usual way: beta versions and stable ones (if needed with patches for the stable versions) than can get a safety to run in production/server environments. It is not very fun to install a new version that messes eveything out and leaves traces on the windows registry that make impossible to recover the backup and run it normally. If that happens with a beta version, nothing abnormal, but if there are no betaā€™s, apparently no need to try it first out ā€œdryā€ on a spare machine.

WD or VWS? I would say both, at least until there are on some side really stable production versions!

PS: edited to try to make my english understableableā€¦

Whatā€™s unfortunate about posts like cascotaā€™s is that they give the impression that WD (and VWS) are both fundamentally unstable, and if you read it on the internet it must be true - right? But itā€™s not true. As with any software a small number of users will experience instability, either due to unrecognized hardware issues, interactions with other programs, or some actual bug related to the combination of options they have selected, but the vast majority of users of these programs have a satisfactory experience.

Programs like VWS and WD that run 24 by 7, banging the serial/USB and network ports and logging data to disk, will exercise the PC way more than common user interaction software. If someone couldnā€™t run either VWS or WD reliably I would start to look for common factors, rather than pointing the finger at the application software.

I have used WD for almost 4 years, it has usually run uninterrupted for months for me :smiley:

Well, I am running this on machines and OSā€™s that have run web and mail servers with more than 100 simultaneous users for years flawelessly, with very long uptimes and without one crash - and this even with ā€œheavy weatherā€ running on the same machine, with the same serial port and the same weather station.

WD and VWS, without the other server software, were crashing or otherwise causing problems after 1 or 2 weeks on the same machines (4 different ones, 2 with Win 2000 server and 2 with WinXP pro). Why are both programs including the possibility to periodically reboot the machine on a scheduled basis? Apache & Co. donā€™t have this option.

Iā€™m sorry, but I think you have missinterpreted the word ā€œstableā€ - it means not that other versions are unstable, both that it has been tested on stability under different (and partly very hard) conditions by beta testers. This is the usual way in software development, and probably not to replace with ā€œon my system has been runningā€¦ā€.

which version of WD cascota?
as the new fast memory manager put in use a month ago now has increased stabilty 10 x (10.35h)
I myself have 10.35p running stable, been running now non stop for 3 weeks,800,000 data received.

ps. why dig up so an old thread on the forum?
(its called grave digging)

So Brian we dig or not?
Cheers
Peter

what i mean is, to start a new thread
its Ok to search back to find infoā€¦
but starting a new thread is bestā€¦
otherwise posters on the old thread end up geting an email that someone has replied to their postā€¦years after the post/Q was makde, and in Helges case, the originator of the post in Q, he uses VWS and would not appreciated an email about this!

Sorry for the old post - I have not looked at the datum, found it via a link from outside.

Now after a long pause, running again WD10.35u, as you said much more stable.

I apologize if my poor english has lead you to understand my post as negative - it was as a suggestion intended, to avoid problematic situations.

Well Iā€™ve been running 10.35L ever since it ā€˜hit the streetsā€™, and itā€™s still running quite stable without a reboot since then.

That other package I had to buy other third party packages to keep my site updated, as itā€™s had a ftp issue for probably TWO long years now, and on last check it still hasnā€™t been fixedā€¦ a showstopper bug for two years ???