Hello,
It is possible to have data about the fallen snow in the rain_c_blok.php block, possibly as I put in the next image.
Thank you.
Marian.
http://www.celinmeteo.com/wdisplay/pswWD0920/
AFAIK there is no weather-program uploading snow-depth or snow-fall as a standard tag.
So the dashboard has no way of knowing the value to display.
Wim
Hi Wim,
Thanks. The following numeric fields in clientrawextra.txt contain snow information which can be provided manually in WeatherDisplay. The first three refer to snow fall and the last one to snow depth.
479 Snow Inputed into WD Today
480 Snow Inputed into WD Month
481 Snow Inputed into WD Season
697 Snow Depth
Would it be possible to use them?
Thanks,
Marian
The clientrawextra.txt file is very large when you only need four data values. When I wanted extra data for my template I used a WD customtext.txt file with only 9 tags. . . and there are a few snow tags in tagslist.txt 
And I see snow tags in testtags.txt. . . if they are suitable you could produce a short testtags.txt file and get the extra data into PWS_livedata.php from the uploaded testtags.php. And then modify rain_c_block.php to display the data as you suggest.
If one has to enter the snow-measurements manually, it is easier to use our own tool.
That way all users can use it, if they ever see snow on the ground for more then a day or two.
This request is close to a “one-user” request, I expect the scripts not to be used widely.
Currently, there are about 30 dashboard-users for the 2012-lts version.
AFAIK none of the (West) Europeans ones will have snow for more then a few days, with snow heights in the mm.
And having a block showing “No current values” for weeks, and then for 1 or 2 days “Snow height: 2cm”, seems not to informative to me.
I will post a beta version block and “data entry” script this week-end.
Already included the “texts” which will be used in the updated translation files.
Wim
P.S. The Leuven-Template always had a Snow block to be used on the front page. It was nearly never used.
Check here: http://weather-template.nl/weather28/index.php
Maybe that’s why M.P.C. thought of adding something to the rain block? (Although I think he gets a fair bit of snow!)
OK, but users still have to enter a value somewhere? That value should be checked and reset.
And the users have to update it. There should be some checking that snow is not shown in mid-summer a.s.o.
What should that one value mean:
snow-fall then one could that add to the rain-block, but that should be updated and set to zero if there was no new snow-fall in the last 24 hours.
or
snow-height? But that should not be in the rain-fall block as that is more a static value.
This is an update to the “extra-sensors” upload files for WeatherDisplay
See also https://pwsdashboard.com/documentation2012/36_extra_sensors.pdf
If WD parses this file and uploads it every 5 min’s to ever hour or so, this file be read by the livedata scripts.
The contents of the the uploaded file would be similar to this
# weatherdisplay extra tags for snow only
#
#|fromrain|uom|in|! either inches or cm
|fromrain|uom|cm|! either inches or cm
#
# found these in tagslist.txt used by weatherdisplay
#|snow_today|rain|10|! ..............Snow for today you have entered under input daily weather, inches
|snow_today|rain|25.4|! ..............Snow for today you have entered under input daily weather, cm
#
#|snow_height|rain|30|! ................Current snow depth, inches.
|snow_height|rain|76.2|! ................Current snow depth, cm.
Two extra $weather values will be created and can be inspected in the debug-console PWS_module_test.php
I will adapt the rain block as soon as I have at least one user uploading this data.
As I can not check if the %xx% tags are correct.
Wim
M.P.C. is the OP but is not using the PWS_Dashboard as it’s main website.
Only visitors to the main site, if they understood the link in the menu and clicked on one of the many links would go to “pswWD12-11-26” whatever that is.
tags_snow.txt (626 Bytes)
I think M.P.C. enters his values into WD, so I presume he wanted to get them from WD rather than enter them again.
I am only guessing. . .
Hello,
I’m using a snow depth sensor, and it’ll be great if it works live as it does now via a graph from WD.
Serge
If you upload that graph-image to your website, you can easily show that image in a pop-up.
Now we are discussing how and what to add inside an (extra) block on the dashboard.
What are your ideas about that?
Wim
Regarding this graph I wanted to show you that it snows in places. Regarding my application I will be interested in a block that indicates in text the height of snow in real time as well as the accumulation in the day and annual.
Serge
Sorry, but i can not process such a large extra file with over 800 items, just for 4 fields which barely / never change during a day.
The design of dashboard-type templates forces us for every block which is refreshed to process all data files in the live-data script.
That is why there is only 1 frequent updated file (clientraw or WD-api) used.
I prefer all other “extra” data to be uploaded in a more slow frequency whenever the values change or every 20-60 minutes.
Also that file should be as small as possible.
Wim
Yes it snows everywhere.
But the 30+ PWS_Dashboard 2012_lts sites I scanned this morning, are not in areas where it snows, not now and just a little in mid-winter.
Regarding my application I will be interested in a block that indicates in text the height of snow in real time as well as the accumulation in the day and annual. SergeBut OK, I noted your ideas. Although I do not see the scripts anywhere used when I visit your website,
Wim
I understand
It was just information and according to your writings it is going to be complicated.
Thank you
Serge
Ok, first some facts about the rain block. It can have three low items at the right
==> which are displayed when the weather value exists
These are the current used items:
- rain_lasthour will be displayed even if it is zero
- rain_rate will be displayed even if it is zero
- et_today “evopatranspiration” will be displayed even if it is zero
- leaf_wetness will be displayed if there are less then 3 items, even if it is zero
The snow-height and fresh snow-fall can be displayed if there is room for it.
See attached screenshot of the adapted rain block.
There is only room for one snow-value inside the border, I display “Fresh” if there is snowfall, otherwise the current height will be displayed.
Possible adaptions:
- Need to enter a snow season, otherwise the last recorded snow height will be displayed.
- Only display “rain-rate” and “rain_lasthour” if the value is greater then zero. That will give us more room.
- make a smal block into we can display at least both values
Wim
As I understand it?
This is well in: rain_c_blok.php block and only works on: PWS_Dashboard 2012_lts?
Serge
Most locations probably won’t be measuring rain if getting snow. I would guess that people with rain bucket heaters don’t measure actual snow amounts but calculate measured water content for snow amounts. I would eliminate the rain rate and last hour and just substitute the snow tags. (Been a long time since I lived in snow country, but I seem to recall that WD behaves differently once you start adding snow amounts versus rain data)
This is a discussion about the how, what, if for getting snow displayed.
And as 2012_lts is the last release I use that as an example.
Well in that case I could use the whole right part for snow in 1 item, that would give about 6 lines of snow values.
For WD we could then use snowfall: fresh - yesterday - month - season = 4 lines
and current height makes 5 lines.
For other weather-programs I could develop a similar data-entry script as used in the Leuven-Template.
Good morning
I agree with “NorCal Dan” the water content following the snowmelt thanks to a heater this is of anything; do not forget that snow is sometimes of a different concept not to mention heat evaporation. We did research on this subject at university in 2011 and prove the futility of having a heater. I would have to apply for disclosure authorization to show you this research. I will close the parentheses on this subject because it is more of a commercial marketing.
Regarding my request, it would be nice if the live snow heights were possible and not adjustable manually.
On WD many are equipped with an automatic snow-height probe (laser, ultrasound and others) to measure snow heights and even sometimes water heights (brook, rivers and more…)
Serge