Hello, I noticed this morning that my site reports a new record low. The site is reporting that it his 30.4 this morning and declared it a record low. Further down on the site where it gives the site’s historical high and low, it says that in 2007 it was 29.2. If you round the 29 down to 29 and the 30.4 down to 30, the 30 this morning is still a degree warmer than in 2007. so why was it declared a new record low? If it rounds them both up, it is still a degree higher, and if it rounded the 29 up and the 30 down, they would both be 30, and it still wouldn’t be a record low? I even dispute it should be identified as a tie for low as they are 1.2 degrees apart.
I suspect that WD contains correct data and that it is a script that is using new math?
It doesn’t say…if you follow the link to the web page, you will see the graphic it is displaying. After viewing it, you will know twice as much as I do, if not more
I am assuming low for the day as it is not the coldest day ever by about 50 degrees
URL? You mean my website? Easiest to follow the link in my signature which will take you to my website’s home page where you should see the link I am referring to. My web site link is in my signature, just like yours
As I mentioned, I am doubting it is the raw WD data that is “confused”, but more than likely an error in the script. Since others run the Ken True/Webster script, I thought others might have also had the same problem on other days when their own weather station came close to a new daily record. I think I have seen this error before, but dismissed it.
just to save time for people , i.e so they do not need to have to go through a series of web pages
what is the actual URL to the web page that has the problem?
Because it is right in the middle of the home page I didn’t provide that level of detail as I thought if I didn’t provide that info, home page was assumed?
I tried to give as much detail regarding what I was seeing and assumed it would be natural to click the link to my weather site and would see the graphic I was referring to. Was trying to avoid redundant and what I though was unnecessary links and text to wade through.
I see the graphic on your home page but I couldn’t find a link to any other page that would show the records for your station. If you have those being uploaded to your site could you provide the URL so we can take a look? All time records, Yearly records, Monthly records if you have them…
thanks Scott for chiming in, and good to see you back here
I thought it must have been from some php script pulling data from WD data or similar
which is why I was thinking there was some web page URL we could view or similar
Lew, which version /build of WD are you using?, as wunderground make changes every now and then which means an update to WD is needed so that the data works again for the wunderground almanac
Every post I make has a link to the web page with the problem as I have stated I think twice so far in this note string.
When I first got on this site, my signature had non-linkable domain names in my signature and lots of people asked me why I didn’t make them linkable so people could simply click on them to go to my website. I did that ages ago and like the one in your own signature, it is provided for your convenience, and in this case, so you can simply click on the signature link and it will take you to the home page where until midnight, the graphic appeared.
Hello, You are way over my head which is why I hired someone to help me put up the current version of my site. I don’t know how or where the data is saved?
On the menu is an “Almanac” option, and under the option is “Station Monthly Reports”. It shows my station info back to 2007. I assumed all of my past data was my own station’s data, and was stored somewhere that various scripts could access and use? If that isn’t the case, I don’t know where the almanac data comes from if it isn’t in fact my own data?
Frankly, I am hoping it is my data as that is what it is being represented as?
Hello Scott, 99% of the people on these forums are way smarter about WD and all these scripts than I, so when you make a comment like that, I am not sure which WU records you are referring to. I send my data to Wunderground where I can view and see my information, but are you saying that somewhere in the script is a setting for which weather station to get record information from?
So although my own weather station’s record was one degree colder in 2007, it was some other station’s record that day? Can you please tell me which file would I need to change so it was looking at my data (since 2007) vs. someone else’s data for that date?
Can you tell me when I look at the “Station Monthly Report” data, is that my data or from some other site? I assumed all along when I found that info, that is was my own station’s info, so therefore I thought the script was comparing yesterday’s low with my own station’s historical low for that day?
I re-read your note and wondered if I answered your question properly.
On my site’s home page is the “Temperature” section with the thermometer graphic on the left side.
The top section is current temp, then high and low today, then historical high and low for the day right below it.
So the top part of the temp section said the day’s low was 30.4, right below it the historical low said 29.2.
The text below it says the historical data is for my station, further reinforcing my belief that all the historical data was from my own site’s data, not from a 3rd party (WU).
If my previous response didn’t answer your question, I hope this second version of the answer does
I still am assuming the historical record data is my data which could have been found two ways:
The easy way was the way I did, which was simply to look at the historical record low as described above to Dan. The other way was the way I also mentioned in my first reply to Dan, i.e. my site’s Almanac data for the date. The Almanac data for yesterday from 2007 is:
15 September Average and Extremes
Average temperature 47.7
I believe Scott was referring to the Ajax template your site uses and is indicating that Graphic is Shown when a record, “Based on the WeatherUnderground Almanac” has been surpassed.
I don’t use those templates but I do use Record High and Low tags that gather that information from WeatherUnderground and not your individual stations readings or records.
Was yesterday a record for your local Official Weather reporting Station? Not your personal weather station.
Thanks for clarifying Scott’s comments. You regulars have your own language and level of understanding, allowing you to talk in kind of a short hand method.
Ken’s comment kind of confuses me then based on making that connection. I understood his point to be that in the scripts somewhere which WU data to poll, i.e. in essence, I was lead to believe, I was grabbing my own data back from Wunderground. So based on that concept, the record low from WU would still be my PWS’s record low?
If my website says I have recorded a 29 degree day in 2007, I think it is in appropriate to have another part of the same web page say that the day’s 30 degrees was a record low. I wrongly assumed that the script was using my data and comparing my data from today with my previous data for that day going back to 2007 when I started this PWS.
Unless the “record low” script can check for a record against my data, I think it should be removed as reporting someone elses record for the day vs. mine seems inappropriate.
Today is the other side of the coin.
My stations low for today was 48 in 2008. Today’s low was 42. So yesterday, when it wasn’t my record, it said it was, and today, when it is a record, it doesn’t say it is.
It seems to me that my station should be reporting it’s own data and it’s own records. Of course I would still be providing forecast data from elsewhere and things like air quality from places that officially measure it, but anything I am measuring and have archived I feel should be used for what is displayed on my site. I think the point of web site is to report what the conditions are right here, at my location, and not at the airport 2 miles W or the Weatherbug site 2 miles east, or a temp or measurement that is deduced from an algorithm.
Recently the state recorded a new high official dewpoint. On the same day, my own web site recorded an even higher dew point. I don’t expect any other source to quote my numbers as “official”, but I was happy to have hit a new record for my station none the less.
A couple years ago we had a strong wind which blew the top off our biggest building in town…basically a brick facade on the front end of the 2 story building fell to the sidewalk. The newspaper of course quoted the windspeed at the airport to the west. Their windspeed was much lower than what I recorded, and probably their wind speed never would have knocked down the facade, but the wind speed I recorded would have had a better chance of producing the damage.
Sorry for the diatribe, but my point is I want my site to report what data it can from my own measurements and not report data that conflicts with my data or would appear to be my data or should be.
I think I understand…you want to know why the 30.4 shows as a record low temp when your station recorded a lower temp earlier in history?
In WD, if you go to View->All-Time Records you can select what records to view. Choices are Current Month, Current Year, and All Time. Take a look at those and see what record was broken yesterday, if any.
For your webpage, I don’t know who/what/where that graphic came from that showed a new record. We would need to see your source code for that page. Take a look at the source code for your index page, then find that section (I saw the graphic in the section labeled Current Conditions) of the code and see what file it references. The only way to know what’s happening is to look at the source code and see what the reference is to trigger that graphic. That will tell you if it is your data being compared or some other data.
