I agree with Jachym about not worrying about someone repackaging and selling my templates … all my stuff is free, and freely offered to weather enthusiasts who can find use for it for their own personal weather websites. I, very deliberately, did NOT include anything in the template or support scripts that can ‘phone home’ to let me know an instance is working… I’m a strong believer in ‘pull’, not ‘push’, so the template check-fetch-times.php?show=versions script can compare current script versions to available script versions and offer the suggestion for how to get the set of updates needed from my updates tool page. All ‘pull’ technology from the viewpoint of the weather website admin.
For your own sanity, Brian, I’d suggest you remove the tracker code and consider implementing a downloadable package (.zip) with a single settings file for customization, and if you’re game, a version checker that can optionally run to help folks keep the scripts at your current released versions. It’s worked quite well for me (and for users of the Saratoga template, when they so choose to use it).
hi ken
we haven’t spoke before this is totally been misintepreted its not a call to home script in fact there is nothing in the template that calls home (to any of my domains i own), it is merely a reversed date of issue , and station ID and my name buried in the jQuery , nothing calls home there is no need , simply to create a simple reverse text try this nekolleh goto http://www.textreverse.com to un reverse it , its that simple but when you increase the text length throw in some symbols its hard to read and find in amongst a load of minified jQuery . i don’t know what I have done wrong but a select few just continuously think its something else . its such a shame , i don’t go around on any forum criticising or assuming about anything i don’t use or know about. each to their own and I respect other peoples work and I don’t judge or assume anything about those.
if this is the nature of posts Im going to get so be it ill leave you guys to carry on creating websites and other fascinating technical stuff.i really don’t feel I have done anything absurd or wrong and the simple fact someone assumed or totally misinterpreted that there is a call to home script , because nowhere have I once stated or mentioned a call to home function or script . if i did i would make people aware prior to using it ,but the simple fact it doesn’t exist and neither will it in the future.
and Jachym thank you ,you shown your true colors and rather childish , thanks for ruining this thread…
.eracekathsilgneniyasewsanislegyalokhsikrutniyasewsa reverse this … take care brian…
I really cant believe this… we all tried to just express our opinion, nowhere have I stated that your script is “calling home” - all me and Wim were saying is that you should just ignore that minority who do not behave in the best way… but OK honestly Brian? You know what I think? I think it is actually you who behaves like a child all the time… I thought this long time ago, but I would not say it like this have you not called me childish…
For example, do you really enjoy saying “this is the end of development for now, sorry, Im too busy” only to come back two days later? Do you really need to delete threads you dont like only to create them again the next day? Or even delete the entire website so that you can upload it again two days later? Sounds familiar? Is it really necessary to try to grab attention to oneself all the time this way? … that is what I call childish and now you have just proven i was right… people trying to help you or give advice and you insulting them and the absurd thing is that it was in fact YOU who is talking BS… not Ken, me or Wim… I have never said that you are “calling home” and instead you say I ruined “your” thread… I really have to laugh… you know what, delete it, and then create it again tomorrow like you always do… Btw. I think I know quite well why you actually insulted me… it was because Ken and Wim are older and everyone here respects them so you wouldn’t have the guts to say something to them, whereas in case of me it is different.
P.S. I will rather not even mention what you did to me in the past as I don’t want to be like you, trying to insult people and grab attention to oneself all the time. And one last thing… if you care so much about copyright then maybe you should respect it as well - http://www.wunderground.com/wunderstation - here is “your” template.
Please don’t react to this. I am not interested in your opinion and I would not express mine unless I had to defend myself.
Ok, that was my bad interpretation of what was going on with your change to jQuery script (which is more like steganography to hide something inside something else). It’s not a ‘phone home’, so I retract what I’d said about implying a ‘phone home’ concerning your script(s)… sorry!
I do stand by my other points about freely offering source, not worrying about what others do with it (or if they remove credits) – my part of the hobby is sharing my discoveries, and if others can use it, so much the better.
I’m not sure what your concern is about ‘this is the nature of posts’ – forums are a free-form medium where (generally) constructive/non-hostile comments are encouraged and appreciated, while personal belittlement is actively discouraged. I’ve seen nothing to cause your comment about Jachym to be done – his comments have been thoughtful and non-childish (IMHO) in the first two pages of these posts.
interesting… maybe you should read what you just posted and replace my name with yours… and to finish this - we never had any problem on this forum before. I have never had any problems with anyone, no-one was insluting others etc. As soon as you joined the forum here I thought to myself… oh no… but I must admit I expected it to take longer before problems arise… And it is really absurd that you don’t see it was you yourself who started insulting others…
Interesting that he hex coded the footer html to try to keep people from removing it. Really seems hung up on preventing this from something that was given away for free.
Yes you are right, you don’t know my template. And now try to think about why I know and ever got involved with yours.
Maybe try to remember whether there was somebody in the past who you have contacted asking for help and who despite being quite busy always offered it to you and helped you without hesitation, never refusing it, ignoring it or being rude or arrogant in any way. If you cannot remember let me know, I have those emails in my mailbox too…
Changing part of your coding into hex doesn’t stop anyone that has any level of skill in modifying html/php. Even someone that has no skill in that can figure out what you have done and what it contains. Just google hex decoder to find a way or even just paste in a snippet of the hex into google to direct you to a decoder. All it does it make people wonder what you are trying to hide or what tricks you are trying to pull. All you are doing is punishing the 95% of the people while you are trying (unsuccessfully) to stop the 5% that might try to mod the template in ways you don’t want.
Do I think your footer is overly large and obnoxious? Yes, and that may be one reason people are trying to eliminate it. Most of the weather web templates have a single text credit line in the footer or in the “about us” page and there is little reason to eliminate that.
There is a reason that the most popular weather web templates are free to use and modify! They do allow users to donate if they find the templates useful and I have donated to a number of different programmers. I’ve even donated to Brian (WD’s author) over and above the original cost for all the hard work he has done over the years.
Exactly, and that was the whole point of my original post, where I even praised him for his work… but unfortunately this person (as I have seen so many times already) does not care about opinion of others, steals work himself and then wants fame as much as possible… (and don
Well I’m glad that’s over. Weatherist34 had 11 posts over 5 days spent defending a free template that was even being adapted to use with WD real time data. Got to be a record for running someone off offering something for free… #-o.
