How can I get this back to normal?
Brian,
How can I get this working again?
why have you split this into so many threads?
do you have ticked, store the solar as temp sensor #4 for graphing, in the solar setup?
try that
and tick, plot solar instead of indoor hum, and plot as % solar, on the setup, graph setup?
OK,
Stating to get confused again. On the extra sensors real time graph setup sensor 1, sensor 3 and sensor 5 are temperature sensors right? My third sensor down in the extra temp sensors on the one wire setup page is my solar (temp) sensor. So on the top of the solar setup page I selected sensor #5 as my sensor number for solar data. NOW I need to select "Store the solar reading as extra temperature #4 for graphing solar on main screen. " I apologize for being a pain but this is not intuitive and hard to follow.
A couple of suggestions if I may. Place numbers to the right of the extra temp and humidity sensors in the one-wire setup screen. Make these numbers correspond to the sensor # on the extra sensor real time graph form. Also modify the “Store the solar reading as extra temperature #4 for graphing solar on main screen.” to use the exact same number as on the extra sensor real time graph that is used for the solar sensor. Lastly, if labels are placed on the sensors at the bottom of the one-wire setup page, make these “global” so when a user selects the extra sensors real time setup page the labels are “pulled” from the “existing” pre populated data. This would alleviate a lot of this confusion.
I think the last check tick fixed my graph. Thanks for all you time and help. Now if I could maybe write all of this up so I don’t forget. 
Now back to my original problem where is the solar data plotted as a percentage?
On the extra sensors real time graph setup sensor 1, sensor 3 and sensor 5 are temperature sensors right?
correct
Store the solar reading as extra temperature #4 for graphing solar on main screen
you need that on, but, if you have a extra temperature sensor #4, and you want to still have that plotted on the extra sensor graphs, and you dont want solar on the main screen graph, then there is this option to not store the solar as extra temperature 4, to plot on the main graph
make sense?
naming from dallas 1 wire setup:
there are not that many dallas 1 wire users…there are a minority…
and so i have it where you can set the names in other parts of the program
Brian,
Where is the solar sensor data being plotted as a percentage after all of this?
in the graph setup, there is the option to plot as solar %
with a temperature sensor as a solar sensor, you fine tune the reading to come up with a % of bright sunlight (i.e you need to fine tune it)
the above option then compares that with the max reading for the lat/long for the time of day…and so with that option, even with a solar sensor that records wm/2, you can plot solar % as compared to what it should be for that time of day and for you lat/long
with a temperature sensor in a jar, you are plotting solar % on the main screen anyway ( it think!)
but you can also view the plot of that raw temperature sensor on the extra sensor graph, but you will have to set the max value higher for that plot
becuase you were not upgrading wd for 4 weeks, you missed out on all this…
it was surprising things still worked as far as plotting solar onthe main screen for you with the upgrade to the new version
anway, i am writing a new help file, and it will cover things like this
but by the time i reply to everyones emails, post answers in the forum, there is very little time left to work on the new help file 
Brian,
I think you misunderstood my question. I used to see my solar sensor data plotted on the extra sensors real time graph and it’s not there any more. Is this data plotted somewhere else?
yes
as explained in one of many lengthy posts, its now on the solar real time graph
(i.e it says solar.uv/et real time graph under view)
as i wanted to simplify the extra sensor real time graph, and have it as just temperature or humidity (but in 1 case volts from a solar sensor)
it was just getting too complicated with solar on it
That’s what I thought but the solar real time graph is not showing my solar as a percentage and the graphs along the right do not agree with the main graph percentages. IE 100% is at the top of the graph but my graph barely moves up a 5th of the graph?
that graph is plotting solar…wm/2
which is estimated from the comparison to the max solar reading for the time of day
and so you migth need to fine tune your offsets for use with the temperature sensor in a jar so as to get a higher solar % (in the solar setup screen)
i have to head out now…
But Brian the solar is plotting perfectly on the main interface form 0 to 100%. The old extra sensors real time graph used to plot it exactly as the main interface did. Now with that in mind why does the main screens plot not match the solar real time graph? Here’s a screen shot of my solar sensor setup screen. If I do any adjustments the solar graph either never reaches 100% on the main screen or emmidiately goes to 100%.
its the 14 , for oC for 100% (i.e the difference between the solar sensor as the outdoor temperature sensor for 100% (and the other one is the diffrence to give 0%)
that you might want to lower a bit, so that you increase the calculated % which is then compared with the max solar for the time of day for the lat/long
BUT Brian,
Why is my solar percentages working on the main screen graph? They start out low and increase perfectly to 100% (when its sunny). I do not understand how one part of the program is calculating the percentage correctly (main screen) and the other part (real time solar) is not?
When I adjust the number lower it says its 100% sunny when its overcast.
the real time is not plotting solar % (i exaplained that earlier)
its plotting an estimated wm/2
Hi Brian, just wondering have you hooked the new solar/uv/et graph up for the labjack solar?
it should work,…
as long as you have the switch ON in the solar setup
is that with a solar sensor via a labjack?
i will have to do some testing…
greg, i could add option to plot % on the solar real time graph, like that on the main screen…
the real time is not plotting solar % (i exaplained that earlier) its plotting an estimated wm/2
If the main screen graph is plotting WM/2 and the real time soalr data is also plotting wm/2 then why do they look nothing alike?
the main screen graph is plotting %, not wm/2,so you are confused there…
those 2 graphs are exactly the same…the one on the solar real time graph just has a a different scale…and a longer time period…and uses a wm/2 scale…(using solar % to estimate solar wm/2 from the value you woudl expect for the time of day for your lat/long will give the same plotting line)
that is the one on the left hand side, that has wm/2 next to it
the one on the right hand side is UV…but if you have solar % plotting, then it will be used for that…
so, you are getting confused between the 2 scale colours…and you should be refering to the scale on the left hand side,…
and i will make a % plot, but with a different colour, and give you the option which one to show
i know you dont like me Greg, and you try to show me up and make look silly with what looks like obvious blunders all the time!
the problem is greg is that there are lots of different ways of getting solar data into wd
some are from station that have actual solar sensors
other ways are by adding the sensors, non standard, to weather stationsm, etc , etc
there are lots of combinations
so its not easy to get it right for each combination of sensor type and weather station type
so, if you want me to get it correct, then I will, but please, a little less of , look, this is wrong, that is wrong,
but instead, work with me on the issues, and we will get them
yes, i know, why did i change it form the extra sensor graph…well, it was even more of a nightmare getting it correct on that graph, with having to deal with different combinations of temperature and humdity, etc, from different weather station types, and different ways of getting extra temperarture data (non standard ways), etc, etc
so, if you want to work with me , then do
if you want to work against me, and you are not happy with wd, then tell me straight up, you are not happy, and you are going to use some other software, becuase you are sick of me changing things (i am trying to simplyfy things so everyone comes down to more of a commen denominator (with all the different combinations, etc))